ARX, DRX, BRX, ZRX - what's happening here?

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Permalink Reply by progeSOFT North America on May 4, 2009 at 11:36pm

A. BricsCAD does not actually ship IntelliCAD, they have their own software which is not IntelliCAD, they use the libraries from the ODA.
B. ZwCAD has developed their own add in for ARX which they did independently of the ITC, they used the libraries from the ODA
C. the ITC is currently working on a 7.0 version which utilizes the libraries from the ODA.

The ODA is the one central fixture in all of this, they are the base library everything is developed from.

The question of why they did not join forces is because they want to gain a competitive advantage over the other competitors out there, even for a brief moment in history.

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Permalink Reply by Siem Eikelenboom on May 5, 2009 at 6:46am

Hi Mr. ProgeCAD, (Btw, do you have a real name?)

Is ProgeCAD developing PRX for its competitive advantage? I think joining forces would be best.

How can BricsCAD first be an IntelliCAD implementation and then start competing IntelliCAD? Aren't they supposed to bring their improvements back into IntelliCAD? Didn't they sign such an agreement before they got the IntelliCAD source code? I bet the BricsCAD core is still 90% IntelliCAD.

Will IntelliCAD 7 use the ODA DRX libraries? I hope they will.

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Permalink Reply by Deelip Menezes on May 5, 2009 at 2:01pm

Siem: "I bet the BricsCAD core is still 90% IntelliCAD."

I am sitting in the conference room of the Bricsys office in Gent with Luc de Batselier (Bricsys CTO) sitting across me. I can confirm that the ITC code in the current version of Bricscad V9 is close to 0%. I am also aware of other related details which I cannot disclose at this point in time.

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Permalink Reply by Xenophon on May 5, 2009 at 5:29pm

I think they could use a Southwest Distributor/Sales/Demo/Training Person?

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Permalink Reply by Siem Eikelenboom on May 5, 2009 at 5:32pm

Thanks Deelip, it's good to hear that from an dependant consultant. I hope you'll find the time to write a comparing article about the differences between ARX, BRX and ODA's DRX. That would be of great value to CAD developers all around the world.

BTW it was a pleasure meeting you at the ODA conference!

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Permalink Reply by Siem Eikelenboom on May 5, 2009 at 5:55pm

Sorry, I meant "an independant consultant"!

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Permalink Reply by progeSOFT North America on May 5, 2009 at 7:04pm

The ITC requires it's members only to submit back to the ITC those fixes to defects which are not substantial changes to the Code base. If a member rewrites an entire portion of the source code they are not required, but are encouraged to contribute. Most members understand they are stronger together than apart in the respect of code development.

With that said, the ITC is working together with its members to develop IntelliCAD 7.0 which will have ARX type functionality built in among many other architectural changes and improvements.

Actually progeCAD is my first name, IntelliCAD is my family name... :-)

Siem Eikelenboom said:

Hi Mr. ProgeCAD, (Btw, do you have a real name?)

Is ProgeCAD developing PRX for its competitive advantage? I think joining forces would be best.

How can BricsCAD first be an IntelliCAD implementation and then start competing IntelliCAD? Aren't they supposed to bring their improvements back into IntelliCAD? Didn't they sign such an agreement before they got the IntelliCAD source code? I bet the BricsCAD core is still 90% IntelliCAD.

Will IntelliCAD 7 use the ODA DRX libraries? I hope they will.

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Permalink Reply by baw on May 7, 2009 at 2:13pm

I think it is not really good the CAD developers (ITC members) develop arx separately. An application developer like me faces with a lot headache. Each platform have a different syntax, a different bugs, and a lack of manuals (usually they use AutoCAD references as base but didn't check their functions carefully that leads to misunderstanding). For this reason I hate ZWCAD API because almost each new build brings me more redevelopment.
BRX and GRX (from Great Star) are much better because they mostly store ARX syntax with some alterities.

progeSOFT North America said:

A. BricsCAD does not actually ship IntelliCAD, they have their own software which is not IntelliCAD, they use the libraries from the ODA.
B. ZwCAD has developed their own add in for ARX which they did independently of the ITC, they used the libraries from the ODA
C. the ITC is currently working on a 7.0 version which utilizes the libraries from the ODA.

The ODA is the one central fixture in all of this, they are the base library everything is developed from.

The question of why they did not join forces is because they want to gain a competitive advantage over the other competitors out there, even for a brief moment in history.

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Permalink Reply by C++ on May 7, 2009 at 6:14pm

Intellicad’s API will be called IRX
FYI, Bricscad will load and run DRX as well as BRX, though I prefer to write with BRX

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Permalink Reply by GeoSection on August 14, 2009 at 7:09pm

Hi all Gurus and not too much ;) having missed some months from the last update, who knows what are the plans? or what are the news? about the release of IRX, or wahtever it be called, from IntelliCAD or from any of its members, excepting Bricsys who i suppose are still being a member of the ITC, releasing its proper and really compatible flavor of ARX?

P.D. hope it is readable.

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Permalink Reply by Deelip Menezes on August 15, 2009 at 10:37am

The ITC is not saying anything and neither are its members. Which goes to reinforce the belief of third party developers like myself that things are not going as planned.

GeoSection said:

Hi all Gurus and not too much ;) having missed some months from the last update, who knows what are the plans? or what are the news? about the release of IRX, or wahtever it be called, from IntelliCAD or from any of its members, excepting Bricsys who i suppose are still being a member of the ITC, releasing its proper and really compatible flavor of ARX?

P.D. hope it is readable.

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Permalink Reply by Siem Eikelenboom on December 4, 2009 at 4:28pm

Hi all,

Today ZWSOFT China made their ZRX available for testing. It is supposed to be a good alternative to AutoCAD's ARX.

ZRX is part of ZWCAD 2010 Professional Beta, which can be downloaded from www.zwcad.org.

Please, have a look at it and let me know your experience.

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